Comments on: Johnson set to declare tomorrow http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/ Daily news, politics, sport, gossip and analysis. Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:58:20 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: bobblehat2000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2422 bobblehat2000 Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:24:27 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2422 Well the DPM will either be appointed or not appointed by the next leader. There doesn't necessary have to be one. For the nine years we've had John Prescott in the official role as DPM while Gordon Brown has actually been the second most powerful man in the government. On that basis, it's unclear what value the title DPM has beyond the PM giving that title to the person that the Labour Party has elected as deputy. If Cruddas is elected as Deputy Leader but doesn't want to be DPM then there's a strong argument for just abolishing the role and nominating the Chancellor or Foreign Secretary to deputise at PMQs when the PM's away. Well the DPM will either be appointed or not appointed by the next leader. There doesn’t necessary have to be one.

For the nine years we’ve had John Prescott in the official role as DPM while Gordon Brown has actually been the second most powerful man in the government.

On that basis, it’s unclear what value the title DPM has beyond the PM giving that title to the person that the Labour Party has elected as deputy.

If Cruddas is elected as Deputy Leader but doesn’t want to be DPM then there’s a strong argument for just abolishing the role and nominating the Chancellor or Foreign Secretary to deputise at PMQs when the PM’s away.

]]> By: Nick http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2421 Nick Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:00:20 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2421 I'm not sure that anyone here speaks for the "Cruddas camp" even though some of us are fans of his. The DPM will obviously be appointed by the new leader and we don't have a vote on it, which I imagine is why it hasn't been much debated. I’m not sure that anyone here speaks for the “Cruddas camp” even though some of us are fans of his. The DPM will obviously be appointed by the new leader and we don’t have a vote on it, which I imagine is why it hasn’t been much debated.

]]> By: trafficOne http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2420 trafficOne Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:32:49 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2420 everyone is talking about the deputy leader job. what about the Deputy PM role. who is the best candidate for this. I look forward to a reply from the Cruddas camp. everyone is talking about the deputy leader job. what about the Deputy PM role. who is the best candidate for this. I look forward to a reply from the Cruddas camp.

]]> By: Benjamin http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2418 Benjamin Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:39:19 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2418 I don't think Johnson is leadership material, either now or in the future. He's had his 15 minutes of fame. I don’t think Johnson is leadership material, either now or in the future. He’s had his 15 minutes of fame.

]]> By: Benjamin http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2417 Benjamin Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:37:51 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2417 Quite an entertaining piece by Ashley. It was amusing when she said: "There is the heroin addiction, of course. Only joking" Quite an entertaining piece by Ashley. It was amusing when she said:

“There is the heroin addiction, of course. Only joking”

]]> By: HenryG http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2416 HenryG Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:17:52 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2416 Hilary Benn's interview with Jackie Ashley suggest that he'll be right-wing and boring as everyone suspects. http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,,1943066,00.html Hilary Benn’s interview with Jackie Ashley suggest that he’ll be right-wing and boring as everyone suspects.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,,1943066,00.html

]]> By: HenryG http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2415 HenryG Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:09:50 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2415 What I think a Johnson candidacy would also do is nudge more Brownites toward nominating Cruddas. They don't trust Johnson and having waited so long for Gordon, they're not going to want to be looking over their shoulder. Even if Johnson behaves himself, the media would be forever looking for splits. Much better for Gordon to have Cruddas who offers no threat in terms of personal ambition, and appoint a DPM he can work with, if have one at all. What I think a Johnson candidacy would also do is nudge more Brownites toward nominating Cruddas. They don’t trust Johnson and having waited so long for Gordon, they’re not going to want to be looking over their shoulder. Even if Johnson behaves himself, the media would be forever looking for splits. Much better for Gordon to have Cruddas who offers no threat in terms of personal ambition, and appoint a DPM he can work with, if have one at all.

]]> By: Benjamin http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2413 Benjamin Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:46:58 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2413 Blimey. There are so many people running now, I might as well throw my hat into the ring. Blimey. There are so many people running now, I might as well throw my hat into the ring.

]]> By: Jo Malik http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2412 Jo Malik Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:44:06 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2412 Michael Meacher's a joke. This is why the hard left will never get anywhere. As far as unions backing for Johnson, Unison and the CWU are set to come out for him, with the GMB, Amicus and T & G going for Cruddas so yes, his entry is very good news for Cruddas as it will drain votes for all the people you mentioned plus Hain. Michael Meacher’s a joke. This is why the hard left will never get anywhere. As far as unions backing for Johnson, Unison and the CWU are set to come out for him, with the GMB, Amicus and T & G going for Cruddas so yes, his entry is very good news for Cruddas as it will drain votes for all the people you mentioned plus Hain.

]]> By: el tom http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2410 el tom Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:50:00 +0000 http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/johnson-set-to-declare-tomorrow/#comment-2410 Meacher for leader, as opposed to deputy, I assume? Meacher for leader, as opposed to deputy, I assume?

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